The part of the Bible that is "clear" is Leviticus. It is also the part of the Bible that also tells you not to mix your fibers or grains. So If you want to go with it, empty you closet of all the cotton/polyester clothes you have, and throw out the multigrain bread you have. Oh and also no more shrimp or lobster for you either. Shellfish is a no-no as well. The bible also says slavery is okay. All of this is in the first testament. Jesus never said anything about homosexuality, but he did say we should love one another.
So I'm a strong catholic believer, but i don't know where i stand on homosexuality. I'm all for people being themselves, and loving who they love, but the bible is clear that it's wrong, what should my opinion be? Love is love but i'm told its wrong
These are positions you should decide for yourself, as you must be aware, what we might think about other people and their life choices has no bearing on them.
Belief is the practice of accepting without evidence, following the ideals of others. In this case, you cite scripture, but choose to honor only certain bits of the whole (Gator Blu gave good examples). That you choose to live this way in your faith is as small a matter to others as is your stance on their personal preferences.
Shoe on the other foot: What of others' opinions of your Catholicism, does it bother you that there are those who find fault with this? Would you have them impose their positions on you?
Food for thought...
If you are a believer then leave it up to God.
Here is some food for thought...
Homosexuality practices were often associated with Pagan Temples of other gods which maybe why it is classed as an abomination in the bible. God saw the body of a person as a temple of God. That a child can only come from male and female union.
Many pagan religions still believed intercourse had to be between a man and a woman as this signified the earth and heaven union.
Your bible states that woman came from man. In Jewish Midrash, Adam was both male and female, therefore Eve was taken from Adams side, hence why a woman must be joined to a man in marriage or sexual union in order to become one flesh.
The Catholic Church had many priests who committed abominable acts with children over many years, and have still not held those accountable, but just moving them to different areas of the church, I don't think it can stand in judgement of others.
Homosexuality and even paedophiler was permitted or ignored in Rome. Socrates was a pederast. Hence, homosexuality may have an unfortunate stigma of being associated with paedophiler due to history.
Not all homosexuals engage in sodomy.
If your children were homosexual would you love them any less?
The Bible was written as a guide, not a rule book. Let your heart be your guide and believe what's in it, not what was written thousands of years ago.
I am a Catholic (cradle, now 71 years old), so let me take a shot at this.
When I was a teenager and young adult, homosexuality carried quite a societal stigma. I have always been heterosexual, and that was well buttressed during my upbringing by the extant dislike (more like disgust, I fear) of homosexuals.
I was always taught "Hate the sin, lover the sinner," so I always had a way to separate the 16 year old who stole the package of gum from the store and the 16 year old active homosexual from what they did and still "love" them in the general way that adolescents can sort of understand that concept.
I have had a great and sustained interest in theology and psychology since I studied both formally. I was also abused as a child (NOT sexually) and that has always tended to make me want to understand the motivations of those who perform actions that for whatever reason are judged (whether rightly or wrongly) harshly by the society in which they live.
Bottom line---for years, I have actively sought to wrap my mind around homosexuality. About four years ago, I realized that it was highly unlikely that I would ever be able to do so, so I told God (literally) that I thought that perhaps homosexuality was not something I needed to understand.
And if you can't understand something, it's hard to have an informed personal opinion about it.
So, here is my present approach to homosexuality---currently I do not have a personal opinion on it, nor do I have a responsibility to formulate one at present.
Beyond realizing that homosexuality in and of itself does not assure the continuation of the species, I do not understand how it fits into anyone’s daily life, but I certainly do not fear homosexuality. Interacting with homosexuals as fellow humans is easy---after all, I’m human too. As to other questions, e.g., morality and legality, I leave that dialogue to those in the appropriate fields.
Love is an act we perform. The genital component of love is a separate issue. So are "feelings." (Just a heads up for understanding.)
I was going to make a point similar to Gator Blu, but I believed she expressed it better than I would have.
If you decide to believe that homosexuality is wrong anyways, I want to encourage you to be respectful of gay people anyways and act like a decent person. While you don't have to agree you still have to respect them and leave them alone regarding it.
When I was still religious, I was also homophobic, it was actually this flowchart that changed my mind about it:
So, as a believer, do you embrace ALL the teachings of the Bible?
There are some that hold the Ten Commandments in high regard (both Sets with second one being very odd), and then there are some that attribute Eating Shellfish, Bacon, getting your hair cut with rounded edges, Beard Cut, Mixing fabrics (Poly/cotton blends included) and wearing jewelry to be part of Mosaic Law, and not relevant to us now . . . Both are from the Old Testament, and the Commandments (including Thou shalt not kill, and Thou shalt love no other God before me) are just as much part of Mosaic Law.
If anything, the Christian "Belief System" tolerance has had to adapt (Yes Evolve) to mold itself to CURRENT Cultural norms. Often, those who are against things like homosexuality, have made this a "Personal Preference" with regards to their subjective World View. They only use the Religious text that most closely align with what THEY feel is appropriate behavior and disregard the parts they do not personally agree with.
In the end, you get to decide. You can maintain your belief system, and only regard the scripture that aligns with your World view, and disregard the rest as tired Old text relevant only to the day and age of its creation.
Megan I am also catholic and I have nothing wrong with that and if that's what you believe then I think its alright. Your right. With all people being themselves . I don't see anything wrong with that at all.
As a Catholic it's not your place to judge others God loves all of mankind and all of mankind sins. In the Popes first year he was asked about a certain gay priest in the Vatican and the Pope replied who am I to judge them awesome answer.
It is sad that people who claim to be Christian love and accept what God clearly said is wrong not only in Leviticus 18:22, "You must not lie down with a male in the same way that you lie down with a woman. It is a detestable act." Also in the New Testament at 1CORINTHIANS 6:9-11 says "Or do you not know that unrighteous people will not inherit God's Kingdom? Do not be misled. Those who are sexually immoral,idolaters,adulterers,men who submit to homosexual acts,men who practice homosexuality, thieves,greedy people,drunkards,revilers,and extortioners will not inherit God's Kingdom. And yet that is what some of you were. But you have been washed clean; you have been sanctified; you have been declared righteous in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and with the spirit of God." Even though it is an accepted practice in the world today it is not with God. The Bible was written for all people no matter what time period they have lived on earth.
The BIble says in 1st Chorinthians 6:9 that homosexuals will not enter the kingdom of God.
If you think someone won't be punished becuz they r loved, read Hebrews 12:6
Yes, I would love my child if she became homosexual. Does that mean I continue to let her live in our home? No.I've told her this many times.