In the bible, was there ever a time that Jesus didn't agree with what God told him?

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Tom  Jackson Profile
Tom Jackson answered

Like it or not, we Catholics usually have an answer for everything somewhere in our pockets or purses.

"Rather, we should see the cry of our Lord as a fulfillment of the psalm of the OT and expressing the fact that in the final moments of His mortal life, it would seem that Jesus allowed Himself in His humanity to cease feeling the consolation that He normally experienced by His hypostatic union with His Divinity. This would be similar to the experience great mystics and other Christians have, who go through periods in which God withdraws His consolations. The great mystic St. John of the Cross would describe this as the Dark Night of the Soul. And in such manner, Christ experienced this aspect of human existence, in which we know by faith that God loves us and cares for us, but allows us the dark night of the soul without emotional and spiritual comfort.

Neither must we assume that somehow God separated Himself from Christ at this moment: NO WAY!"

http://www.ewtn.com/v/experts/showmessage.asp?number=339874


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Tom  Jackson
Tom Jackson commented
@The Z

I thought Dark Majiin was your groupie, not the other way around.
Call me Z
Call me Z commented
Well there you go thinking; based on some of the responses you've posted, I can appreciate what a challenge that was.
Like it or not, we secular thinkers readily recognize logical fallacies and outright BS, because we get exposed to it nearly everyday by so many of your ilk. The great difference between us Tom, is I've been where you are, but found no intelligent reason to remain there. Supporting other people's delusions with logical fallacies and rote recitation of metaphors and parables is NOT thinking, and I find great solace in knowing my position is more thoroughly researched and far better supported than that any acolyte of the vile Catholic Church can lay claim to. I do respect your right to hold to whatever it is you choose to believe, but that's about it. I will, as it amuses me to do so, point out future desecrations of logic you may post, as it is clear you are overwhelmed by them.
Darik Majoren
Darik Majoren commented
Tom Wrote:
"I thought Dark Majiin was your groupie, not the other way around. " -
Tis true, I cannot help but be drawn to sound Reason and well presented Logic . . . call it a weakness for truth.
Call me Z Profile
Call me Z answered

There is no way to verify what was told to Jesus by God -assuming accounts are true- as no one ever documented any of Christ's life, speech or deeds during his lifetime. It is, at best, conjecture crafted decades later to suit the purpose of Biblical authors.

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Darik Majoren
Darik Majoren commented
Someone could choose to write a book about use 30-50 years after our deaths, and align our thoughts, texts and deeds to the point where "Z" and Darkmajinn were one in the same . . .
This is all normal when dealing with fictional premise.
Good thing we have medical records, census, and documentation telling us apart my brother.
Call me Z
Call me Z commented
Yes, then we too could become immortal, however dubious, in the eyes of those seeking to use our conglomeration for their own interests. I could leave this mortal coil happy just knowing I made my point to those like yourself with the will and aptitude to understand it. We are of the same cloth, amigo.
sm cl Profile
sm cl answered

From my understanding, they never disagreed. However, just as with anyone preparing to undergo a daunting task/trial, Jesus was feeling some trepidation. This was a reason he had to go off into prayer so often. The cries he made on the torture stake were that of a man in pain.

Cookie Hill Profile
Cookie Hill answered

No there has never never been a time where Jesus did not do or want to do something different from what his Father wanted.  John 8:28,29 "Jesus then said: " After you have lifted up the Son of man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing of my own initiative; but just as the Father taught me I speak these things. And the One who sent me is with me,he did not abandon me to myself, because I always do the things pleasing to him." Jesus never disappointed his father he is the only one who gave perfect obedience to his Father God.

Jann Nikka Profile
Jann Nikka answered

Never. 

Father and Son, were always in total agreement. Jesus said "I came to do the will of my Father".

John 4:34 and John 6:38.

Charles Davis Profile
Charles Davis answered

I'm not sure if it was in disagreement or not understanding what was suppose to be done "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?". So either he didn't agree with dyeing or he didn't understand he was supposed to. But in any way you look at it, there is no secular writings about Jesus, and there is no way to know if he agreed with this or that. I do however know he disagreed with Paul's version of what was supposed to be.

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Smiley Crankenhoof
I think maybe it's one thing to know theoretically you're going to be sacrificed, but an entirely different proposition feeling the sensations when someone is hammering nails into your body. That may have had something to do with it.
Charles Davis
Charles Davis commented
Although I can agree with you, but it makes it less a case for him being a God, and more being just another human.
Darik Majoren
Darik Majoren commented
One could surmise that if Jesus is one with God in all of His power, the we must ask ourselves "What is the limit" to the characters of God. Is omniscience merely just like seeing and memorizing a movie of things that WILL happen in the future, or is it more. To truly KNOW ALL and have such a claim fully embrace the concept of "ALL" . . . certainly we can agree that Experience and Emotion be present in the knowledge of the concept "Knowing All". If this is the case, would such an experience be a surprise to the "Son of God" . . . to a God truly "Knowing All" it would have HAD to been an excellent act . . . simply for the sake of "Selling" the concept of sacrifice.
AnnNettie Paradise Profile

Did Jesus’ words “my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” indicate a lack of faith on his part? No. His words may indicate that Jesus recognized that Jehovah had taken His protection away so that His Son’s integrity could be fully tested. It is also possible that Jesus said this because he wanted to fulfill what Psalm 22:1 foretold regarding him. (Matthew 27:46)

Jesus was not insensitive to the feelings of disgrace that accompanied his execution. Possible dishonor to his Father resulting from Jesus’ being condemned for blasphemy was a matter of concern to God’s Son. Jesus asked Jehovah to spare him such indignity. “Remove this cup from me,” he prayed. But Jesus submitted to God’s will. (Mark 14:36)


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