Believing Jesus is Gods incarnate helps Christians to understand the Trinity, What do you think?

I think the "Trinity" was invented by early Christians who were in two minds about whether to worship god or the one claiming to be his son. To add a degree of mysticism (essential in all religions) the "Holy Spirit" was added later.

Jesus himself did not claim to be god incarnate, but his/her/its son, and seems to have suggested that we are ALL children of god. (A vanishingly small number will have have a virgin birth though.)

Trinity is a man made/invented concept, some say its a Catholic dogma,  its not in the Bible, the word is not in the Bible. Jesus never claim to be GOD. He always said I came to do the will of he who sent me. Jesus never prayed to himself and when dying he cried out to his GOD.

The Trinity is a Catholic abstraction of Biblical teaching, one of many. This isn't what I think, it is a fact. 

There was a need to reconcile the concept of Christ as half-divine with the existence of an already recognized, separate Divine Creator. The concept of the Holy Spirit, which is the embodiment of a believing state of mind, was formulated by 3rd or 4th century clerics, not lifted from scripture, to weave the "father and son" entities into a communicable (though tedious) ideology. It also served the cause of elevating FAITH (read: abandonment of reason) to the level of highest virtue. The result was spun as a Sacred (or Holy) Triumvirate, with each aspect retaining an equal status of divine elevation in the eyes of the church.

I think if one studies the deep historical evolution of man's legion of religious deities, it becomes clearer how this concept (like many others in Christendom, including Christmas) arose from the selective adoption of earlier Pagan practices.

I figure its all very confusing, and I will wait till I die to find out the answer, (or, if the atheists are right, I will not find out but I will no longer be around to care)

Maybe we should put it on the back-burner...

jesus never claimed divinity nor did he claim that he was anything other then a prophet

Sounds like b/s to me.

I think there are many Christians who are hazy on the whole idea. No wonder.

Once you begin to accept absurdities, the merely implausible is much easier to swallow.

I never understood the Trinity concept, and when I asked men of the cloth had trouble explaining it.

The bible says the following:-

Deut 6:4

Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord:

Mark 12:29

And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:

John 17:3

Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent.

The Catholic teaching is that God (one nature, three persons---Father, the Word, and the Holy Spirit) has always existed.

When the second person of the Trinity became flesh (Jesus Christ in the hypostatic union), that occurred "later."

The Trinity is "explained" in Catholic theology by generation and spiration.

So here's what I think:

        The Incarnation helps me understand God, but it does not specifically help me understand the Trinity.  If I do not understand the Trinity, I cannot understand the Incarnation.

And I also think that humanity understands God over the time of the existence of the human race---as a "people."  (Refer to the Body of Christ.)

And I also think that to that end, God established a Church to facilitate the understanding of Himself by mankind and to coordinate the realities from all of the inaccurate impressions of Him that mankind has and will continue to manufacture---until we finally get all of the necessary answers in eternity.

To believe the Trinity you first start with the definition of the Trinity.

Three divine Persons (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) each said to be almighty, none greater or less than another, each said to be God, and yet together being but one God.  These three "Persons"  are not desperate and distinct individuals but are the modes in which the divine essence exist.

The encyclopedia Britannica says the word Trinity or the doctrine appears in the New testament.

The bible tells us a personal name of the father.ma Jehovah

His son. Jesus... But no name for the holy spirit.milkman

Acts 7:55,56 says Jesus is standing at God's right hand.  No mention of holy Spirit.  Hmmmmm

John 8:17,18. Jesus spoke of himself as being ann individual  separate and distinct from his father.

Why did Jesus say his Father would send the holy spirit to help his apostle in his name after his death? 

Hard to believe in something that contra dicts itself when you do the homework